BILL MUMY: FROM CORNFIELD WISHES TO LOST SPACESHIPS TO ATOMIC SKULLS
By Paul Freeman [September 2017 Interview] Yes, you know Bill Mumy as that uncannily effective child actor who made indelible impressions in “The Twilight Zone” and “Lost in Space.” But you should also know him for his music. Most recently, Bill Mumy (pronounced Moo-Me, by the way) got together with a couple of very talented friends, formed a group called Action Skulls, penned some terrific new tunes and began recording. For this project Mumy teamed with Vicki Peterson (The Bangles) and her husband John Cowsill (of The Cowsills and touring drummer for The Beach Boys). When you hear Action Skulls’ newly released debut album, “Angels Hear,” you’ll say, “It’s good he did that. It’s real good.” From the irresistible Merseybeat feel of the opener, through Bo Diddley beats, folk-rock jangle, tantalizing twang, bluesy slide, rockabilly edge and psychedelic swirls, Action Skulls delivers the goods. Whether on joyful rockers or moodier excursions, the band creates a convincing, distinctive energy. Mumy, Peterson and Cowsill are all exceptionally strong, expressive singers. They harmonize beautifully. And the instrumentation perfectly complements the great songwriting and engaging vocals. Also heard playing on most of the tracks is longtime Neil Young bassist Rick Rosas, who tragically passed away before the album was completed. Such diverse songs as “Mainstream,” “If I See You in Another World,” “Map of the World,” “Faith Waltz,” “Feed My Hungry Heart,” “Standing on a Mountain,” “The Beast and the Best” and “The Land of Dreams” all captivate. “Angels Hear” is an album you’ll want to listen to over and over again. As an actor, Mumy has been featured in such memorable movies as “Palm Springs Weekend” (with Robert Conrad, Troy Donahue, Stefanie Powers and Connie Stevens), “Dear Brigitte” (with James Stewart, Brigitte Bardot and Fabian). In his teens, he made “Bless The Beasts and The Children” (directed by Stanley Kramer, with a hit title song by The Carpenters). And later Mumy appeared in “Papillon (starring Steve McQueen and Dustin Hoffman). On the small screen, Mumy has the most impressive list of credits imaginable. He’s a walking chunk of TV history. He appeared on — to name but a few classic series — “Alfred Hitchcock Presents,” “Dr. Kildare,” “The Dick Powell Theatre,” “Have Gun — Will Travel,” “The Jack Benny Program,” “Wagon Train,” “Perry Mason,” “The Fugitive,” “Walt Disney’s Wonderful World of Color,” “The Adventures of Ozzie and Harriet,” “The Munsters,” “The Virginian,” “Ben Casey,” “I Dream of Jeannie,” “Bewitched,” “Here Come the Brides,” “Rockford Files,” “Matlock,” “Star Trek: Deep Space Nine” and “Babylon 5,” on which he had a regular role as the alien Lennier (1994-98). Mumy is fondly remembered for his role as Will Robinson on the 1965-68 series “Lost in Space.” Another indelible performance came in one of his three “Twilight Zone” performances, in “It’s a Good Life,” portraying little Anthony Fremont, who could read minds, transform matter and terrorize everyone around him. The multitalented Mumy has pursued many creative avenues. He has written episodic television scripts. He has also written comic books and graphic novels for Marvel, DC, Dark Horse Comics and others. He co-created the popular children’s TV show “Space Cases.” Mumy is currently a consulting producer on the hit television series “Ancient Aliens.” He has an extensive resume in voiceover, including “Rescue Bots,” “Ren and Stimpy,” “Scooby Doo,” Batman: the Animated Series,” Steven Spielberg’s Animaniacs” and “Buzz Lightyear: Star Command.” And then there’s the music. The eternally youthful Mumy (if you didn’t look at his early credits and do the math, you’d assume he was at least a couple of decades younger than he is) has been singing, writing songs and playing guitar (as well as numerous other instruments) for much of his life. Mumy has been in numerous bands. For more than 30 years, he has worked with pop-rock group America — composing, producing and performing. As half of the clever, offbeat Barnes & Barnes duo, he fashioned numerous albums and videos, including “Fish Heads,” which Rolling Stone listed as #57 among the Top 100 Videos of All Time. Mumy is an Emmy-nominated composer who has contributed countless songs and themes to TV shows and films. In addition, he has released several extraordinary solo albums, the latest being “Velour.” And now there’s Action Skulls. Give it a listen… or Mumy might just wish you into the cornfield. POP CULTURE CLASSICS:
BILL MUMY: We were all at Peter Leinheiser’s, who’s a Gibson guitar guy [Senior Director of Entertainment Relations for Gibson Guitar Corp.] He and I used to be in a band together. We were at his Christmas party, which is a few doors down from Angela Cartwright’s, who I did “Lost in Space” with and I’ve been friends with since I was a little kid. And they both have these annual holiday parties, that usually are on the same date. So my wife and I and John and Vicki were hanging out at Peter’s and I said, “Hey, we’re going to split. We’re going over to Angela’s.” And John was like, “Angela Cartwright! Ooh!” [Laughs]. I said, “Come on over.” He goes, “We can’t just crash her party.” I said, “Of course you can. You’re more than welcome. Come over with us.” And so we did. And it’s a big party and everybody had a nice, welcoming party hang. But then we sort of slowly drifted over to their upright piano, sat ourselves around it and literally, we probably sang for like four hours, Beatle songs, just classic pop stuff that we all like — The Beatles, Beach Boys, Byrds, The Band — you know, all those “B” bands [laughs]. But there was a really natural and interesting blend between the three of our voices. And all three of us are pretty good harmony singers. So parts kind of fell together quickly without anybody thinking — “Oh, let me find a part.” Between that and the egg nog [laughs], we were like, “Wow!” John and I were really excited. Vicki was into it. We were like, “We ought to see what we could do with this, with some original material.” John and I were very, very gung-ho. And Vicki was like, “Yeah, yeah, sure” [laughs]. PCC: MUMY: And it was all synchronistically falling together, because within a week of that party, I was at a gig and Rick Rosas was there. We didn’t really know each other. I was with America. And we were hanging and talking. And I said, “I’m putting together this project with John Cowsill and Vicki Peterson.” And Rick was like, “Wow! I know John. I’ve played with John and he’s a great drummer. Do you guys have a bass player?” [Laughs] This is like the best bass player in the world asking me if we have a bass player. “Yeah, it’s you! You’re in!” PCC: MUMY: PCC: MUMY: And it took a while to get the bulk of the record recorded. You know, John is in The Beach Boys. And they play like 200 gigs a year, all over the world. And so if you’re gigging 200 nights a year, you’re probably traveling 250. I mean, they’re always out there. And then that year, Vicki was doing a Bangles thing. I was making a movie and a solo record. And Rick had been drafted into Neil Young’s European tour with Crazy Horse. The Crazy Horse bass player had a heart attack or something and Rick had to take his place. So there was a big hiatus in between getting the basic tracks done… because everybody was off in these other commitments, although we all stayed in touch — texting and email communication. And I had the masters here. So I added some keyboards and things like that and kept everybody in the loop, as I did little bits and pieces. And then Rick did the Meryl Streep film, “Ricki and the Flash.” And he died. And it just blew our minds, because we had just been talking. We had eight tracks recorded with Rick. And then he passed away so suddenly. And that really put everything into a frozen mode, suspended animation. It just shut down, because we were stunned and didn’t really know how to react to that loss. Meanwhile, John’s making a living in The Beach Boys. Vicki is doing this and I’m doing that. So it took a while before we kind of regathered, the three of us and really started listening to what we had done with Rick and felt, “Wow, it’s really good. The spirit that we made these tracks with is so solid and positive. We ought to finish this.” So then we got back on the horse and there were three additional songs we recorded after Rick’s passing. I played bass on two of them and John’s son, Will, played bass on the other. So it’s still very much a family kind of affair. And there’s only four musicians, well, five, because Will Cowsill plays bass on one song. But that’s it. There’s nobody else. Nobody else. No ringers [laughs] on the record. And we finished it. PCC: MUMY: I would love to think he would. And I know John would. But it’s hard to tell somebody, “Hey man, forget about your day job. I know you’re playing the Royal Albert Hall this weekend [laughs], but we could be opening act at the El Rey!” You know what I’m saying? [Laughs] I don’t want to encourage somebody to give up his gig so that we can go play a handful of gigs for pizza money. But I think we will play more live together. I think we will have a follow-up. I feel like we’re a band even though we’re not able to be in a bus together [laughs] heading up and down Hurricane Central, which I’m not sure any of us wants to do anyway. PCC: MUMY: But in 1964, I was still little, but that’s when a friend of mine turned me on to the Kingston Trio. And that particular folk music and that particular blend of voices and energy, songs that were telling stories, hit me harder than anything else, hit me harder than “Rama Lama Ding Dong” had. Although I still loved The Beach Boys and Jan & Dean and all that. But folk music, yeah, really hit me like a religion. That was the music that made me want to learn how to play all those songs, so I started studying and became a musician and quickly became a songwriter. And that’s kind of the path I’ve been on since I was 11. And I find that kind of Kingston Trio formula — I know it sounds a bit ridiculous, but it isn’t — I applied that formula to Action Skulls quite a bit. If you think about the Action Skulls record, the majority of those songs have the lead vocals on the verses divvied up. The first verse might be Vicki, then the second verse might be John, then the three of us come in for a three-part harmony on the chorus, and then I’ll take the third verse, etc. And that happens quite a lot on the album. And that’s really from The Kingston Trio and other bands that have done it over the years… but not that much. Traveling Wilburys did it a little bit. The Band did it a little bit. You’d hear songs that Levon started and Rick Danko or Richard Manuel would take a verse. But The Kingston Trio did it all the time. I have to say that that was the creative catalyst for us divvying up the vocals. PCC: MUMY: PCC: MUMY: Pete Seeger, Bob Dylan, The Kingston Trio, Woody Guthrie — that was really the stuff I was absorbing as a kid. But folk-rock came along — The Byrds, the Lovin' Spoonful, Mamas and Papas, eventually Buffalo Springfield — those were the type of bands that really resonated with me… in a way that they still do. I dug The Doors, Steppenwolf, all those other bands at the time, too. But I think the folk-rock stuff is more in my wheelhouse. PCC: MUMY: My friend was living in this apartment building with most of the band from Three Dog Night and they all — Gerry, Dewey and Dan — all got apartments in that building. And we were very much pals from the very beginning. And I still talk to Gerry and Dewey almost every day. It was almost just making music with your friends, whether I was on stage with them or whether they were singing on a Barnes & Barnes record or we were writing songs for their records, it’s just always been a very collaborative, open, friendly, easy thing. PCC: MUMY: PCC: MUMY: I play music constantly. And songs just kind of pop out. You’re a radio receiver. This frequency just kind of hits you. You might be asleep. You might be driving. You might be swimming, etc. But you just kind of go, “Oh, what’s that?” You kind of listen to it and “Oh, it’s the muse! Oh, I’m getting a song!” That’s a great feeling. Learning an eight-page scene is easy for me, compared to a lot other people. That’s just a gift that I’ve had since I was a little kid. I can memorize dialogue pretty quickly. But that’s work [laughs]. “Okay, I’m going to memorize these lines. I’m going to do this, I’m going to do that.” You go to work and you drive to the studio and you sit in a little trailer for a while and then you go on the stage. Somebody tells you how they want you to do it and where they want you to do it. Then you do it. And then the editors and the directors and the producers put it all together the way they want to. And somebody scores it or puts the effects to it. It’s not like writing a song and going into a studio and being able to paint that canvas as you feel it should be painted. So I get much more artistic satisfaction out of creating music, but I still think I enjoy the work of being an actor, when I choose to do it. I don’t choose to do it very much anymore. But when I do, I have a real good time. PCC: MUMY: When you’re on a movie set or a television set, it’s such an epitome of a huge orchestra. Everybody’s got their little part to play. You might be the guy who’s pulling focus on the camera. You might be the star of the show. But if that’s camera’s not in focus, you’ve got to do it again. And if you don’t remember your lines, you’ve got to do it again. And if you drop the mic into the shot, you’ve got to do it again. So everybody pulls together like a well-tuned orchestra. And I always had a good time. But it’s an interesting question, because it was always work. But it was work I wanted to do. But you can’t be Anthony Fremont in “Twilight Zone” and not understand that “Okay, you’re going to do this now and you’re going to listen to them. You’ve got to react. You’ve got to move over there.” It’s work. It’s good work, but even as a six-year-old, you understand — you can’t decide that you don’t want to do it at that minute. PCC: MUMY: And my mother’s father, who passed away before I was born, had been a successful agent in the 30s. Boris Karloff was probably his highest profile actor, client. He had gotten him the “Frankenstein” auditions and stuff. My mother had worked at Twentieth Century-Fox for 11 years, as a writer-secretary, before she married my dad. My uncle was an assistant director at Fox for 40 years. Point being, my family wasn’t impressed with or intimidated by the concept of show business. We lived in L.A., that was the business of the town. So it didn’t weird them out. And really I was pushy and wanted to do it. I was an only child. My parents had me kind of late in life. So my mom said, “Well, let’s put him on ‘Romper Room,’” which was a preschool television show that was syndicated in various places around the country where civilian kids would like be in school on “Romper Room.” The wisdom in her choice to do that, before anything else, was to see if I would be comfortable under lights, with cameras in my face, and, to a degree, taking a little direction. And I was very comfortable. I loved being on “Romper Room.” I mean, you went there for a week, but I stayed for two. So it was smart of her to see how I would react to this environment. I reacted positively, so they got an agent and I started getting the parts. You can’t escape your destiny. PCC: MUMY: PCC: MUMY: And then someone will say something like, “Hey, what about that Gene Kelly thing you did, ‘Going My Way’?” I know worked with him, but… Or “National Velvet,” I know I did that, too. But I haven’t seen those in 50-some years, so they’re not familiar enough. I totally forgot about June Allyson. And I didn’t even know I worked with Don Rickles [laughs]. PCC: MUMY: It’s a very dramatic show. It’s a strong anti-gun kind of a story. It was really well done. And yes, he directed it. The tension in the show is brilliantly paced. Basically, I was in every shot of the show. That’s just the way the script was written. So I’m working from nine in the morning till six or 6:30 every evening for four or five days on this show. And I’m in like every shot. And they wanted to get another closeup of me and it was like 6:20. And the social worker, the teacher, it’s her job, she goes up to first assistant director and says, “You know, you’re going to lose Billy in 10 minutes.” And they go,” Oh, God, yeah. Oh, okay. Well, we want to get this last closeup in.” So they decide, in their infinite wisdom, that I should stand in for myself while they’re lighting this last shot, so that they’ll save some time. So they say, “Billy, stand right here and stay. We’re lighting it with you.” I’m seven years old. I’m fine being told that they’re lighting it with me instead of the little man that is my stand-in. But the reality is, I’m not a stand-in. It’s not my job. It’s not something I’m trained to do. And I’ve been working, probably up since seven in the morning, driving out to Universal and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So I’m fidgeting around on my mark. I’m moving around. I’m not being the perfect stand-in while they’re trying to light me. So Alfred Hitchcock rises up out of his chair… You have to understand, I’m seven years old. I’m maybe four-foot-three or something. I’m little. Alfred Hitchcock was a very imposing physical man. He was constantly sweating. Constantly. Always sweating. Had jowls that hung over this tight, white shirt with a tie. And he wore a black suit. And he looked like Jabba The Hutt to me — not that I knew what Jabba The Hutt was at the time. — but he was like, “Whoa!” So he gets up. He lumbers over to me. And I’ve been working for him for days and doing a really good job. I mean, I’ll let the show speak for that. He walks over to me. He bends down. And this is what he says to me, in my ear, no one else could hear him say this but me, and he says [in a spot-on Hitchcock impression, starting with the trademark sucking in of all the air around him] “If you don’t stop moving about… I’m going to get a nail… and I’m going to nail your feet to your mark… And blood will come pouring out… like milk… So stop moving!” Okay? Now he scared the shit out of me. He said this to me with no sense of humor, but with a very kind of serious threatening tone. And those were his exact words. I swear to you. So okay, I’m kind of standing there, frozen. And they get their last closeup. And they wrap me out for the day. And I’m walking to the car with my mother. And I’m saying, “Do you know what he said to me? He said he was going to nail my feet floor! Blood coming out! Milk! He was going to nail my feet!” And my mother goes, “Oh, honey, he’s British. They have a different sense of humor.” Here’s the other punchline. It’s something I’ve thought about quite a lot. If Alfred Hitchcock had said to me, “Thank you, Billy, I was just teasing you, you know,” if he had said that, I probably would have forgotten it in two days. It probably wouldn’t have stayed in my mind. I would have just forgotten it. Everything would have been fine. But he didn’t. And without any shadow of any doubt, he knew he terrified me. He did. I was terrified. I was really scared. So here’s a guy who makes a conscious choice to really scare a little boy who’s starring in his show…I just think that’s messed up. That’s my Hitchcock story. That’s all there is to it. I survived. I’m not emotionally scarred by it. But I’m not a fan of Hitchcock. PCC: MUMY: The first time I worked for Disney was a movie called “Sammy The Way-Out Seal” and I was eight years old. And I couldn’t have had a better time, working with Mike McGreevey and seals… it was just great. And Norman Tokar wrote and directed it and Norman Tokar had directed the first like 100 episodes of “Leave It to Beaver” and he was just wonderful. And one day I get called into Walt’s office. And here’s the deal — when I work with someone like, let’s say, Claude Rains, I wasn’t impressed with Claude Rains. I’d never seen his movies. Right? But when I’m working with Walt Disney, I knew this was Disneyland, this was “The Wonderful World of Disney.” This was Walt Disney! So Walt Disney was a different category to me. He was somebody I was like, “Whoa! Walt Disney! I’m going into Walt Disney’s office!” [Laughs] I remember having butterflies about that. And the first time I talked to him, all he wanted to do was say, “I’ve been watching the dailies, it looks like you’re having a great time. And I just really wanted to know — are ya?” And I was like, “Yeah, Mr. Disney.” “Call me Uncle Walt.” I said, “Uhhhhh… Okay, Uncle Walt?” He said, “That’s okay, go on out, I just wanted to know you were having a good time.” And that was so cool. And then one day, Mike McGreevey and I were walking to the commissary for lunch and Walt was walking towards us. And he stopped us and we had a little chat. In the middle of this chat, he said to me, “Hey, you need to get a little more sleep, huh?” “What?” “Yeah, I hear you’re falling asleep on the set.” I said, “What?” And I looked at Mike. Walt went on about his way. I said, “What?!” And Mike said, “I don’t know.” And we found out that the little red-haired British boy [Matthew Garber] who was in “Mary Poppins,” they were shooting on the lot at the same time and he fell asleep. [Laughs] And we found this out, Mike McGreevey’s mother tracked it down like a Columbo. And the reality was, it was true, this little kid on “Mary Poppins” had fallen asleep a couple of times and Walt — “Here’s that redhead kid. Wake up, buddy! Go get a coffee!” [Laughs] He didn’t say go get a coffee. I remember thinking, “What did I do? What?” But it all worked out okay. But that lot was just amazing. I mean, it’s still a nice place, but it was completely different when Uncle Walt was there. It was really special. PCC: MUMY: We didn’t hang much. We went to a few parties when we were in our early 20s. In fact, I remember I was doing a series at Universal, a short-lived series called “Sunshine.” My hair was really long, I had a beard. And Ron was still doing “Happy Days.” And we were at a party, Laurette Spang’s house. And I remember me saying to him, “You know, I’m going out on a tour with my band and I really think I’m gonna give the music side of this a couple of years of 100 percent,” and him saying to me, “Well, I”m going to USC and I’m really going to get behind the camera. I want to direct.” And I remember saying to him that night, “Dude, you could teach that class! You don’t need to go that class. You could teach that class.” And he went, “No, no, I’m going to go.” And I said to him, “You know Ron, directors, you’re the first guy on the set and you’re the last guy off the set and you’re sitting there putting it all together. Are you sure you want to work that hard?” [Laughs] He went, “Yeah, I really want to do that.” “Okay.” And God love him, he’s made some great films. Really nice guy. PCC: MUMY: In my opinion, that’s probably the best television show ever made. Largely I think that is because you didn’t have a regular cast. Every week you had a new cast. So nobody ever got complacent. Or nobody ever had a chance to get fabulous or pull any hotshot stuff, because they were only there for a few days at a time. It was Rod Serling who was the star of that show. What a singular talent, God. PCC: MUMY: I can tell you this much about him — when he came on the set, and he did often, I mean it’s not like he was there all the time, but he would come to the sets to do his wrap-arounds. And he would come to the sets to see what was going on. And when he did, everyone in that crew was happy to see him. And everyone in that crew was either anxious to talk to him about something coming up in the next script they were going to be doing or… he was a light presence. When you think of Rod Serling, and you see this kind of… [going into teeth-gritted Serling impression] “And now, I’m a very serious guy…and in this episode, it’s very serious.” But when he came onto the set, he was really light. It was like a cool hang. And he was very accessible. That’s the word, I think that is most applicable. He was very friendly and accessible. And that’s rare for a creative executive producer. When Irwin Allen came on the set of “Lost in Space,” and he did every day after lunch, he’d come on the set and he’d look at his watch and he would tap it. He’d tap his watch, meaning to tell the director and the crew, “Time is money. I’m losing money right now, so get your ass in gear.” Now I’m not saying that Irwin was unpleasant. He wasn’t the greatest guy in the world, but he was okay. Joe Straczynski on “Babylon 5,” incredibly talented writer, modeled I think after Rod Serling, as much as I think he could be. Hugely influenced by Rod Serling and “The Twilight Zone.” Nice guy… in a way. But when he would come on the set, there was, “Oop, attention! Everybody get… stand to… Joe’s here. Attention!” A lot of times, when those people, when executive producers come around, it puts a shift in the energy that isn’t always a lighter shift. It’s kind of a darker shift. And in the three episodes I did with Rod Serling being around, it was always a lighter, nice shift, an upshift, when he came around. PCC: MUMY: And I’ll tell you [laughs], for I don’t how many years, in traffic, like my mother would be driving home after a day’s work at the studio, I would really, in my own head, not that it worked, but I would seriously try to use Anthony Fremont’s power to keep the lights green, so we didn’t have to stop. And I’ve sent people to the cornfield, quietly in my mind for 50 years. Great character. A wonderful character. I loved playing him. And being able to return to him, what a treat. PCC: MUMY: But the Jupiter 2 looked great. And it looked great, when you were standing in it. The Chariot, eventually, of course, the robot, all that stuff, the laser guns — it all looked great. We had music by John Williams. The cinematography of the black-and-white episodes, they’re stunningly well shot. They look like the “Frankenstein” movies from Universal. They’re beautiful. We had great guest stars — Michael Rennie, Warren Oates — I mean, a lot of people did our show. I am a huge fan of the first 16 or 17 episodes of “Lost in Space.” After that, they shifted and became a whole different show. And it becomes a campy fun show. And Will Robinson, I always played it straight. I don’t care if I was talking to a carrot or if I was about to shoot a giant Cyclops, I believed the situation that I was in, that he was in. PCC: MUMY: PCC: MUMY: He was great. And he was larger than life. And his wife Gertrude, he was married to her for 64 years. And the two of them, just reinvented themselves, when they were teenagers. They came from the Bronx. They talked like this [does a Bronx accent] — “Tirdy-tird and tirdy-fourth street. Look at the dawg.” And they reinvented themselves and got married very young and just became these wonderful people. [slipping back into that dandified speech pattern] “We’re going to the opera.” And I can’t say enough good things about Jonathan. He was a real character. I’ll tell you. He was kind of like what you see was what you got [laughs]. But if he loved you, he loved you in a big way. PCC: MUMY: And like Disney, that was a completely unique set, unlike any other set I was ever on. Obviously it’s all a family. Ozzie was in control of everything and there was his wife, his kids and his brother. One day, on one of the episodes, Ozzie had been a college football player. There was a big game on. I don’t know what it was. A big football game. We broke for lunch and Ozzie had a couple of television sets on the set. Everybody was watching the football game. And when lunch was over, the bell rang, it was time to go back to work. Ozzie said, “Uh-uh! We’re watching the game!” And the production just stopped until the football game was over. [Laughs] That doesn’t happen very often, okay? Trust me, when I say that doesn’t happen. I was working with Lucille Ball on a Desilu show that she owned called “The Greatest Show on Earth,” an hour-long dramatic show about the circus, starring Jack Palance of one-arm pushup fame [laughs]. It was a good show. And she was guest-starring in this episode of the series. It was her first television guest-starring role. And it was about me. She was a circus person and my father was killed. She was going to adopt me. And it was about that. I haven’t seen it in a while. But we worked together for a good seven or eight days. And over the course of shooting that episode, it was Halloween. And I remember very clearly, about three o’clock, four o’clock on Halloween, Lucy said, “You know what? My kids wanna go trick-or-treating. And I’m sure Billy wants to go trick-or-treating. So we’re going to wrap it up now.” I thought that was so cool! I gotta say. That was really nice of her. So I really don’t have horror stories. The Hitchcock thing wasn’t fun, but it wasn’t that bad. PCC: MUMY: But Elizabeth Montgomery might have been my biggest crush. And I got to play her husband. I got to play Darrin. I did two episodes of “Bewitched.” The first was the first Christmas show, which was really a good show. It holds up really well. Cecil Kellaway plays Santa. And they adopted me as like a holiday adoption — Oh, take this boy in for Christmas, poor sad little orphan. But the kid didn’t believe in holidays or Christmas, he was a sad kid. So Samantha takes him to meet Santa Claus. And wakes up his love and stuff. But I did have such a crush on her. And she did teach me, in that first one, how to do the nose twitch. But then the second one, Endora turns Darrin into a kid. It’s called “Junior Executive.” So a great Trivial Pursuit question is — Name the actors who played Darrin Stevens. Yeah, I’m one of them! So I got to play Darrin. And I got to kiss her and drive her car. It was just, oh, it was so great! [Laughs] One of my very, very, very, very favorite professional experiences was that show. Her son Bill, I haven’t seen him lately, but he’s a friend. I’ve told him that story a million times. And he looks at me like, “Ewww! Dude! That’s my mother!” PCC: MUMY: Also, you’ve got to remember, there’s a big difference between me doing three days on a “Twilight Zone” and 10 or 11 weeks on a movie. It’s a different experience of bonding with the people. So he really set for me a very clear message of — this is what you want to be like. This is how you want to treat people. This is the guy. And he couldn’t have been nicer to me. Interestingly — and having nothing to do with me getting that gig — but his wife Gloria had been my Sunday school teacher, when I was like four. PCC: MUMY: Stanley was great. Stanley was a wonderful man, a very dedicated to justice and equality and the right way for humanity to behave. He walked the walked, as well as talking the talk. He was a tough guy, but he was a teddy bear at the same time. And he was a real pleasure to work with. PCC: MUMY: PCC: MUMY: And the line was drawn really early — the camps. It was like — Here’s Dustin and here’s Steve. And they were absolutely opposites. Absolute. They were just different — really, really different. And I got along with them, but I have a lot of memories of that film that I won’t bore you with. But it was very interesting. And very dramatic. And very physically difficult. I mean, we were out in the jungles of Jamaica, wearing these hot prison wool outfits. And it was like 100 degrees with 100 percent humidity. And the buses were breaking down and we’d be stranded out there. It was a lot of that. Nobody really complained. We all got through it together. But physically, it was like, “Oh, my God! Really?” It was tough. PCC: MUMY: His agents would send him something for an audition and he got to the point where he was eight or nine and he would say, “Is it for a superhero?” “No.” “Is it for a spy?” “No.” Then he’d go, “Well, I don’t want to go.” And so finally we were like, “Well, look, you can’t just say you’re only going to be a spy or a superhero [laughs]. So do you want to do this?” “No, I just want to play basketball.” So we stopped that. He wishes we hadn’t now, of course, because his sister, Liliana, my daughter she’s super good. And really natural at it. She did the “Cheaper By The Dozen” films and the “Santa Clause 2” and “3” films. Quite a lot of guest shots. And she did a series with Benjamin Bratt called “The Cleaner.” But since she’s been seven she has had at least one animated series going. When she was a little kid, she did “Lilo & Stitch.” Now she’s got “Loud House” on Nickelodeon and “Bravest Warriors” on Cartoon Network. She’s a very prolific and productive voiceover artist. PCC: MUMY: PCC: MUMY: No, I never got disenchanted. But I think, after “Babylon 5” — I did “Babylon 5” for five years and I played an alien on that show. And the physical process of putting that character on, which took a couple of hours, and the physical process of taking that character off, which took a good half-hour, while I had two little, little kids at home, and I was a writer and creator of a Nickelodeon series called “Space Cases” at the time, and I was doing voiceovers and I was playing in a band, I think when “Babylon 5” wrapped up, I kind of said, “I don’t really want to go out and be the alien of the week on anything anymore.” I’m not saying I hung up my shingle and that I didn’t want to act anymore. But between the voiceovers and the music and I’ve had my SAG card since like 1959. My house is paid for. I don’t have the desire to go out and be the killer of the week on “Law & Order.” I just don’t. I don’t mean that it wouldn’t happen. But I don’t seek that out anymore. I’m not really hungry. And everybody else is. There’s a million, gazillion actors that would cut off their toe to be the corpse of the week [laughs]. And it doesn’t get me motivated. PCC: MUMY: PCC: MUMY: PCC: MUMY: PCC: MUMY: PCC: MUMY: The most challenging thing, I think has always been trying to be objectively seen or heard in more than one box. If you’re a child star, it’s hard to be seen as anything other than that in a way. It’s hard for people to say, “Okay, I’ve got x-amount of time in my life, I’m going to devote it to listening to Bill Mumy’s music.” I understand they could be listening to Bob Dylan. But maybe if they gave me a shot, they’d go, “Oh, yeah, I liked him in ‘Twilight Zone,’ but this is a good album!” PCC: MUMY: PCC: MUMY: PCC: MUMY: For the latest news on this artist, videos, photos, autographed memorabilia and more, visit www.billmumy.com. |